you can reach me at hippolytos42@hotmail.com if your interested.

Tinfoil that is what I am saying you just have no idea how deep this problem goes and where it came from, I think it would be very enlightening to the public as a whole to know what has lead to this being allowed to happen. It is not an isolated case of a sexual predator being allowed to be in a position like this, there was a case in Modesto at one of there associated churches that didn't have the same outcome, but it could have. People in the know, knew for years this person had sexual problems, he was in the Modesto Bee for a sexual crime before it was ever dealt with in the church and I’m saying they knew for years here, not a short time. He was a Sunday School Teacher and Music director for the church, I know of so many cases like this that is why I'm not so interested in the details of the murder coming out, that is not my angle at all, but the reasons Melissa allowed to be in a position in a church with her background. Most people don’t understand this was allowed to happen, not in the way that she did it with them knowing about it, but there was warning signs that were over looked because she was family and they didn’t deal with her in the same way they would have if she wasn’t family. There is more but too much to get into here, just to say it’s only the tip of the ice burg.

Now THAT is disturbing. In this day and age no-one male or female should be allowed to work with children without having been screened first. And mixing religious fervency with adults associating with children is practically begging for trouble. In the small town I live in,several years ago a preacher was caught having sex with a 15 year old girl from his congregation. He was subsequently welcomed back into the church with open arms. Which goes to show you that some of these small-town churches are run by nutcases.

Guess I could add more also there are churches that require background checks for their Sunday School teachers, so don’t think all churches are run like this it is not the norm any more. The Missionary Baptist have run their churches like this for years so it was only a matter of time before something like this happened. The pastors kids has always had their problems over looked, just because they was the pastor’s relatives they could be straightened out if only you gave them more responsibility in the church. Like in this case they have allowed people to be in a position of respect without parents of the minors knowing the person had problems, they hide the truth from everyone and hope for the best. Before you take or send your kids to a church ask questions, be involved at least to a point to know it the church screens the teachers properly. Just because they have the name “Church” over the door doesn’t imply anymore they are run with good standards.

I also agree, stop running this picture, I'm sick of it too, I'm sure she didn't look like this when she commented the crime. She is only crying because she got nailed for the crime!

While I'm at it I would like to thank the Tracy Police Department for their quick action in the case, also Det. Cogburn as the lead investigator on the case for a job well done. He worked long hours and preformed his job very well, even with all the fire he was taking from the defense lawyer.

It's not the Huckaby family that created the monster, the monster was being created long before the Huckaby name was tagged on to the end of her name, you need to look at the last name she started with, the family she was living with when this happened. The family name that allowed her to be a Sunday School Teacher of young kids that know she had all these problems, remember her grandfather was the pastor of the church that is the last name to start with. Don't turn to the Huckaby name remember she was divorced from the husband with that last name he couldn't put up with her either he wanted out. The profile that needs to come investigated starts when she was a Lawless and possibly the Grand Mother's maiden name Harris for reasons she had these mental problems. Then given the chance after all she had done to be in a position of respect in charge of minors at the church her grandfather was pastor of. It was their choice to over look her problems that allowed her access to the kids; they share some of the blame in this situation.

Has anyone done a genetic analysis of the Huckaby family?

Seeing the "Father gets custody of Melissa Huckaby's daughter" story reminded me how glad I was that Madison was removed from this family. There was a big fight by Huckaby's mother to get her. Remember that MH said her daughter was sickly (often to the hospital, didn't let her go out to play, few friends came over), but the story said she's "flourishing under her father's care" - got to wonder if MH wasn't causing this (Munchausen's by proxy?). That little girl has a chance for a normal life now. Hopefully there will be some followup story, but I certainly respect if Johnny Huckaby wants to stay away from all this.

hippolytos:"there was an environment that created Melessa's mental problem and allowed her access to children, I believe that part of Melessa's life would be a real eye opener for a lot of parents. I believe that there are those although they were not active in the crime, do shoulder part of the blame in the situation."

I agree with this. Over a period of at least 16 years, MH's odd behaviour escalated from when she was 12 (talked about committing suicide), to cutting herself, to lighting fires, to thefts (and saying she was incompetant to stand trial/getting an order for mental evaluation), to drugging another child and a man (exercising a sick need to control others), to "accidentally" killing Sandra. Something must have happened to her when young - I suspect some kind of abuse that was covered up instead of dealt with.

Interesting how attorneys and newspapers are the most vocal about wanting details of the crime to be released, but I don't need to know details, and some will come out from word-of-mouth anyway. The gag order will likely be lifted, but info could remain sealed. I respect the family's wishes more than that of unrelated parties.

I feel the same way you do fortheundendog.

We know because of the gag order and that the judge won't allow cameras in courtroom that they keep reusing the same picture when she was first arrested and appeared in court, but it would be nice change to see the Press use a recent artist rendition of her like many other media outlets are using.

How about this Tracy Press. NO photos of Huckaby at all. Just her name in print is enough to make people puke We all need the time to HEAL just knowing that people like this exist here on earth.......FOR THE NOW

to fortheunderdog: Any current photos of Ms Huckaby will reflect the same as past photos. That being that she is of diminished mental capacity,possibly retarded and functioning not as an adult but as a child. She belongs in a lockup state mental health facility,not in prison.

And to the Tracy Press.....for God's sake will you stop printing those photos of Huckaby sobbing in court. If you have current photos print those instead.

For what reason should the report on how Huckaby murdered Cantu be released? Those who want to read the sickening details are just reader voyeurs who think they will learn how to recognize potential criminals. Believe me, you're going to have to have to attend a few more classes before you will understand the thinking of a murderer.

These files should be forever sealed and not released to the public. It's no ones business other than to the prosecution/defense and the families of those involved.

Leave it alone and let the healing end for these families.

csusgirl wrote:"People like Tinfoil make me sick"

Yeah....I know what you mean. Tinfoil has a habit of striking a nerve with me too. But, strangely enough, not this time. Valid points were made.

The Judge will decide what information gets released based on the most compelling of the current case-law. Pleas from the family, while certainly moving, will have no direct bearing on the Judge's decision.

Ideally, the autopsy results will remain sealed and the FBI/BAU profile results will be released.

We'll know Monday. (Have to watch it on TV though....no local newspaper till Friday.)

I think they could release the profile of Melissa Huckaby in the case without getting so much into the details of Sandra's death, other than to say it happened. But like I have said there was an environment that created Melessa's mental problem and allowed her access to children, I believe that part of Melessa's life would be a real eye opener for a lot of parents. I believe that there are those although they were not active in the crime, do shoulder part of the blame in the situation. When at least part of it comes into the open you will see what I am talking about, that is the reason I feel some of the story needs to be told.

Yes it would be nice to leave it up to the family. I know there are many other families out there who have had their murdered children's info released and wish that it had not been.

However it is not up to the family. This is America and right or wrong the info will come out.It is up to you whether you want to read it or not.

People like Tinfoil make me sick. This isn't CSI or some Biography you watched on A&E. This is a real family in our community that has to live with agonizing pain EVERY DAY, unlike you who gets your kicks off wanting to make them relive a horror act through the press. Sandra's mom has pleaded with the court to keep the records seal, have a heart and respect her wishes. If you want an explanation, then let something like this happen to your family and then you make the decision. As for Sandra, your morbid curiosity should NOT be cured through her family's pain.

Unseal those records so the rest of us with children can try to comprehend the mental machinations that led to a senseless murder. The Huckaby case is NOT your standard pedo grabs kid off the street scenario. Something different and far deeper happened here. You out there who say oh well my kid could never do something like that;take a cold shower and face reality. I do not at all believ that Huckaby's parents saw this coming. But the signs were there and it is for the benefit of the larger society we know what those signs were. Please stop this fairy tale that we're living in the 1950s a la tv sitcoms. Much has changed within our society since then. Many of our children exist on the brink of insanity.

I think it should be up to the parents. How terrible would that be to re-open the files and the family has to reveal what brutal things happened to their baby. I'm sure the parents know how grusome the findings are. I hope the details remain quiet per the families wishes. Karma is waiting for Melissa, I hope she gets what she deserves in prison. God only knows what goes on in there.