As true Americans who believe in the spirit of this great country, health care reform is very much needed. Too many people living in America have suffered from a lack of health care, and many families suffer the loss of a family member who has no money for health insurance. President Obama should be applauded for addressing a difficult issue that affects almost every American citizen in one way or another.
Personally, I don’t mind paying a little extra in taxes if it means a fellow American or immigrant, legal or illegal, will have access to health care. Is the just-passed health care plan perfect? No, it isn’t. But it’s a beginning to correct the direction of America’s moral compass toward doing what is right.
It saddens me to read some of the commentaries in this newspaper from citizens who care more about taxes and money than the well-being of others in our country. It seems our interpretations of God, about caring for our brothers and sisters, is quite different.
However, it would be a pleasure for me to help those who are for or against this health care reform bill with my tax dollars and my giving when they are in need of a doctor. As a matter of fact, it makes Americans like me proud of what we are doing to help those we don’t even know.
We’ve all heard some of the talk show men and women who place labels on health care reform. We have heard them cry out: President Obama’s health care reform is socialism, communism, etc.
I beg and am proud to differ with these opinions and false accusations. For I and other Americans, in our youth, listened to and believed the words of a song we sang as children, “America the Beautiful,” written by Katharine Lee Bates in 1895.
I can't afford Med Insurance,Due to being unemployed from lay off's.But I am not gonna be told that i have to have Insurance becauce the Government tells me to. The U.S. Government has trampled on the rights of citizens in this great Nation over and over.So...Whats new. People need to wake up!
For the one's that agree with this bill?,you stinking pay for it.Put your money where your mouth is.Your already paying for me to Be unemployed.
"This brings us one step closer to National Healthcare." These words were spoken by Obama yesterday, March 25, 2010.
For those of you who believe this is a good bill consider this.
Now that people are able to read the fine detail it turns out the cost is rising well beyond the CBO estimate of $940 billion. Well beyond $1.3 trillion, one estimate was as high as $3 trillion. Ouch!
For those of you who supported this bill I ask you; would buy a car and not read the purchase contract? Yet you buy into this gargantuan contract that you, your children, your grandchildren, and great-grandchildren cannot pay for?
Here's more food for thought. (1)There are 33 million uninsured. (2)One third are uninsured by choice. (3)One third is eligible for medical. These are numbers and statistics that have been used to support the need for the bill. These are numbers that raise some very serious questions.
(1) This number has magically been reduced since last year when Obama was stating it was "close to $50 million." A huge difference. Does he really know???
(2) If people are uninsured by choice, it’s by choice. To make them buy insurance is that not gestapo action???
(3) So that leaves the other one third, about 11 million. Here is your wake-up call. $940 billion allocated to insure 11 million comes to over $85,000 per individual. That’s over three times more than my wife is paying for health insurance at the age of 61.
Here is a the question; Where is the rest of the money going???
America, it's time to clean house!!
"... republicans get all the corporate welfare..."
TARP, passed by a Democrat controlled congress. "Economic Stimulus" same thing. And both with no oversight what so ever.
"They call it subsidies not entitlements or welfare when it is for the rich government money is government money."
It's not government money. It's money confiscated from hard working Americans and taxes confiscated from corporations so that hard working Americans can pay more for the goods and services they want or need so the government can collect more taxes! Oh, who was it that bought into GM and Chrysler with my government money??
Public Debt leads to lack. That's been proven over and over again since the Roman Empire. The enormous debt this and other spending is bringing will lead to financial ruin. Printing money when our borrowing power runs out (It's already starting) will lead to double digit inflation. The cruelest taxation of all. That's "A FAILED ECONOMY". You might try reading "Of Public Debt" from "Wealth of Nations". Better yet read the whole book.
It might interest you to know that it was the "sub-prime" home loans that created the housing bubble which almost caused the collapse of the entire banking system. That's "A FAILED ECONOMY". No matter how you look at it government interference does not work and quite often does a lot more harm as it is doing right now.
Dubious endorsement? Cuban leader endorses US health care reform, says it's about time
PAUL HAVEN AP Writer March 25, 2010
HAVANA (AP) — It perhaps was not the endorsement President Barack Obama and the Democrats in Congress were looking for.
Karl Marx rolled in his grave and wept tears of joy... and lease stop calling this health care socialism.
"By the way lefties do work and pay taxes, own guns just like republicans do, well maybe not..."
Congressman Charlie Rangle- Chairman House Way & Means (Writes tax laws)
Timmothy Geithner- Secretary of the Treasury
Tom Daschle- Secretary of Health nomine- "Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter."
Nancy Killefer- White House Performance Officer nominee
Al Franken- Recently elected Senator
I wasn't not aware lefties owned guns. Aren't they mostly for gutting the 2nd Amendment?
"...Take the California Budget Challenge. Mine balanced I raised the Taxes on Corporation and guess what the budget balanced with a little left over to pay back the dept."
Good job on continuing the California Failure Model. You were still able to balanced the budget on the constantly dwindling number of corporations remaining.
What kind of a business do you run? Computer simulated?
Why are owners/corporations leaving California?
Weather?
Pacific Rim Location?
Labor Resources?
Transportation Hubs?
Employee Education Level?
COST OF DOING BUSINESS?
Any of the above stand out?
Please tell your state reps to look at your claims. They should be thrilled to take the advice of someone who shares their views because they cannot hear the business owners.
"The wall was coming down with or without Reagan."
On what date and why did it happen on his watch?
"Unfortunately 20/20 is hindsight but because of his trickle down voodoo crap we are still dealing with those de-regulation."
Carter's Community reinvestment act strengthend by the Blue-Dress -Stainer followed by Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters, Frank Raines, Jamie Gorlick etc. Our Grandkids will be dealing with their crap.
It's not my job to explain to you the result of the conservative movement. Go ask them yourself.
The fact is they created a great divide in Germany. The communist state has existed in peril, but nobody lifted a finger to change it.
The same thing happens today in DC. You have healthcare broken and Congress throws socialism into the mix to fix it.
That didn't work in Germany and it didn't work anywhere else.
The aricle is about spending and how it's immoral. In Reagan's case it was a tool used to defeat socialism.
Today we are using spending as a tool to embrace socialism.
The wall was coming down with or without Reagan. The is the Myth the right keep spewing it was a long time coming.
Unfortunately 20/20 is hindsight but because of his trickle down voodoo crap we are still dealing with those de-regulation. Thanks to the GREAT SPENDER and the two Shrubs.
Ya still did not tell me what positive thing came from that Conservative movement I can tell you.
A FAILED ECONOMY
Stop living in the past. Reagan outspent the communists and brought down the wall. It worked.
People focus on what they want to see. For example Congress is selling you out instead of fixing the economy.
It's because people can't live in the moment and dwell in the past. And we've all been too dumbed down to see the how congress is screwing up our future.
http://www.nextten.org/budgettool/site/thesim/flashcheck.html
California Budget Challenge.
Lets see how you republican do on the Take the California Budget Challenge. Mine balanced I raised the Taxes on Corporation and guess what the budget balanced with a little left over to pay back the dept. Trickle down voodoo, Reagan the great spender economics, tax cuts to the rich, no cuts in spending, did not work it failed in 2008.
You all remember not so long ago when George signed over the money, that was the last we seen of him until January 20, 2009 with no over site to let them do it another day.
So tell me what was that movement you had for the last 30 years, What positive thing came from that experiment.
A FAILED ECONOMY
This is only the start. I hope anyone intelligent enough to comprehend what's going on realizes this is only the beginning. Next thing you know the government is going to say it's unfair for insurance companies to deny auto coverage to someone with a wrecked car, two DUI's, and 5 or 6 tickets on their driving record. Far fetched? I don't think so.
The idiot we have sitting in the White House along with all his minions, have succeeded at convincing the under educated and ill informed that everyone who busts their asses everyday trying to make a living somehow owes them something.
I love how Pelosi displayed for all her lack of comprehension as to the meaning of the guarantee of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. To all the dummies, notice the word pursuit. maybe the definition has changed, but I don't think pursuit means guarantee.
We are guaranteed the right to pursue happiness but there is no guarantee of acheiving it, that's up to us and how hard we want to work. We do not have the right to stay in a house if we can no longer make the payments. We do not have the right to keep a car we can no longer afford. People do not have the right to sit on their ass and smoke, drink, eat poorly, and not exercize, and have someone else pay for their health care when things start to go wrong.
This country was already declining into accepting mediocrity as the norm, and now Obama and all his little liberal followers have pushed us to the edge of accepting under achieving as something to be proud of.
It's amazing that people can revel in what is truly one of the saddest moments in our history - the signing of a trillion dollar welfare program that rewards a bunch of people who could care less about taking care of themselves. Pathetic.
Also, before people start ripping into me let me state, I fully support helping people that try but can't seem to get ahead, and I also fully support helping those who cannot help themselves, such as the elderly and people with medical conditions beyond their control.
--Get a job, get a life and stop living of the haves --- there are and always will be haves, and have nots. Quit asking and even more important... EXPECTING a handout. The illegals from ALL countries come here because not only is it a better life...everything is FREE! I would be willing to somewhat support ObamaCare or HellCare if it didn't offer up MY hard earned dollars to those that DON'T work. Let's go back to the 2 yr welfare program - 2 yrs to get ur sh** in order and then get off the government teet. And while you are ON it.. you MUST work in some capacity.. trash pick up, menial tasks that no one wants to do nor can we afford to pay someone to do...If you have childcare issues, we will provide LOW cost or No cost childcare while you are on welfare. Dont show up to welfare work,.. guess what, your "paycheck" if u can call it that is docked. Late to work.. same thing. Need a ride, we will provide it.. but you MUST do SOMETHING other than sit on your ass and collect a check.- Make WELFARE something NO one wants to be on and any REAL job is better than welfare. That alone, will save MILLIONS!.
"The Problem with Liberals is that they are willing to GIVE AWAY everything that is NOT their Own.. "
"The problem with Socialism and Socialist medicine is sooner or later you run out of other peoples Money.. "
Even Hillary Clinton during her presidential campaign admitted she did not read the proposals since they have briefer do to the reading for them.
Did Bill Clinton read any proposal front to back himself, who knows.. look at the economy, what were they thinking when they deregulated the banking industry over Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.
Still wished he had not signed NAFTA.
I would not be surprised if the briefer were also influenced by lobbyists?
Done here now.
CN
Molly will no doubt be a treasure for him!
Thanks to those kind people who gave him Molly!
Again, thanks doors17! :o)
CN
The bill as written is immoral because it takes from one segment of society and gives it to another and enslaves future generations with an obscene debt. While I have no objection to giving to those in need I do object to fat-cat politicians receiving a share of my benevolence. I also object to them, the government, making the decision of who is needy and who is not. I am perfectly capable of recognizing need when I see it. As one post said, when you find someone in need help him or her, but leave me out of it.
It really bothers me that all those in favor of the bill don't know what the bill really says let alone the implications. There is so much loss of freedom and privacy in the bill it's pathetic. Even the author in a news conference prior to sending the bill to The House said something to the effect that he was unsure of how it was all going to work. Since the bill lacked those details they now have another license to steal.
The bill does not address or fix any of the major problems with Medical Care. It does nothing to fix the high cost of medical care but it does add to it with more layers of bureaucracy. It does nothing to fix the high cost of insurance but it does create another layer of bureaucracy thereby increasing the cost. By the way, I do not believe the CBO counted those cost in the $940 billion.
And yet, some liberals have the audacity to call the objectors names!
Again sorry for going off topic, I just wanted to share that with the many of you who showed so much kindness to my dad.
We now return you to the health care fight.
Thought you might like to read this website, to support what mikmik said.
http://neithercorp.us/nforum/current_events/government_wants_to_fine_you_for_not_having_health_insurance-t965.0.html
Thought you might like to know.
Good luck.
CN
You wrote; “So you are not forced (mandated) to take healthcare if your state offers a different plan”
Wrong, wrong and wrong! Just because the Federal government forces the state to implement the insurance program in response to opting out does not mean it is not mandated. It just shifts responsibility, which politicians seem to be very good at. Don’t forget, there is still a tax penalty for not buying insurance.