Your Voice: Too pampered to be safe?
by Joseph Graw, Tracy
May 13, 2011 | 2757 views | 13 13 comments | 5 5 recommendations | email to a friend | print
EDITOR,

I was raised in Texas, and fireworks are a family tradition. Bottle rockets, Roman candles, M-80s and chasers were just the beginning. In fact, the fire stations sold them, because they knew they would have to put them out, so why not make the money for themselves and their charities?

Cars kill more people than fireworks every year, so why not outlaw cars? When the whole neighborhood was popping off fireworks and launching them in the air, all parents were there with the little ones showing them how to safely light fireworks — and with garden hoses waiting. This was training handed down from father and mother to their children, from big brother to little sister, and having fun.

Now, with all the hoopla about fireworks killing and maiming you, nobody knows how to set them off properly and what to watch out for and how to put them out if they don’t pop. You all are raising a bunch of illiterate children with bike helmets, shoulder pads, knee and elbow pads, with no common sense. You are putting them on a tricycle one day and then buying them a Corvette or a BMW next and “letting them go.” You know who you parents are!

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otherplanet
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June 04, 2011
Wow, after reading this article, I realize that yet another American tradition is being erased from our ways. Fireworks. How sad. If done correctly, it shouldnt be a problem. Its how WE Americans celebrate the birth of our nation, its how its been done for quite a few years in fact until the politically correct environmental terrorists stepped in and started becoming joy squishers. Your right about the children with bike helmets. Half of them dont know how to buckle them up or strap them onto their video game/fashion show filled heads. it matters little because in the long run, the city cant afford to pay enough cops to find every little kid or parent or group of kids and parents that light up the streets in celebration. We already lost two American holidays this year, is this the sign that we'll lose yet another?
ertion
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May 23, 2011
for some folks, not only is the glass half-empty, the water has probably been peed in by a fish.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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May 21, 2011
Ya got yer wish. Money speaks louder than public safety an it seems thair openin th gates.

But ya set another precedent that I hope don't come back an burn ya, no pun intended.

This apparently was done all fer money. So when they trim yer public safety budget fer money reasons please don't be too constrained. After all, money an bowin ta those who operate illegally is more important than overall public safety now ain't it?

Time will now tell if anyone was right or wrong on this decision an honestly, I hope my position is wrong an it's not gonna cause a problem.

Tell me, outa all th red lights that get ran, how many of em result in a traffic accident? Nah, th comparison isn't quite as weak as ya might thank when ya look at th complete statement now is it?

But fireworks in yer neighborhood keeps ya happy so that's all that's really important ain't it?

Do us a favor though, when yer done, gather up all th trash an put it inta th trash can so we don't have ta incur more cost frum the City ta clean up th mess.
ertion
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May 20, 2011
so, lighting off a safe firework is equivalent to running a red light eh? Novel reasoning to make a verrry weak point.

More people are killed by electrocution via electrical outlets than are killed by fireworks. Are you going to ban electrical outlets from houses?

The way you should handle both of these is to make the products as safe as possible, eg, GFI circuits in houses, and the use of only safe fireworks. An M80 obviously is not safe, nor is it legal in most CA jurisdictions.

People are going to use fireworks. It is only once a year after all. Lighten up. You're being totally unreasonable.
Wobbley
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May 20, 2011
My cousin got his toe blown off by an M-80 someone dropped accidentally.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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May 20, 2011
Never said they weren't. Just sayin they don't belong in a highly populated area like a city or town that already has limited resources ta respond fer public safety.

Got no problem if ya wanna take em out inta th county an blow yer hand off for all I care. Actually I hope that don't happen but it seems ta happen every year somewhare.

Overall public safety limits yer right ta have yer "apple pie" in th city. Sorry, thairs more in th city that need safety more than we need yer right ta make noise an trash an possibly burn someone's house down fer yer sole celebration an amusement.

Now if ya wanna go through a legal process an place th issue on a ballot ta get what ya want, an if th majority of th people agree with ya, I really got no problem with that either. I don't make th laws but follow em even if I might not agree with em. It's th civil thang ta do.

But that's me an what ya do is yer own business. Just remember, if ya do it against th law an get caught, unless th law gets changed, ta take yer medicine like a civilized adult instead of a whiney kid that got his candy taken away so it didn't spoil his dinner.
doors17
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May 20, 2011
Fireworks are as American as apple pie, baseball, the flag and internet porn.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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May 16, 2011
People have been drivin an usin cell phones fer years, presumably with not a terribly negative impact there.

Cell phones are widely used in Tracy anyway. At most, TPD stops someone occasionally usually with a 15 minute warning not ta use em while drivin.

Just do away with th law an other laws ya don't agree with. People in other communities have been doin it fer years. Yes some people will injure themselves an others. But folks will injure themselves an others in all sorts of ways doin all sorts of thangs like speedin, j-walkin across th street, runnin stop signs an red lights, not usin helmets or seat belts when required, coppin that illegal u-turn or left turn in front of our schools or, th best one yet, loadin an unloadin passengers in th middle of th street many times with th vehicle still in motion, just like th kid that got clobbered th other day when th driver of th auto wasn't payin attention.

Yep, you will never make life injury proof so quit kiddin' yerself a just stop even tryin.

Yep, thair are thangs that out thair that can cause harm. Too bad we can't teach em all ta use these thangs correctly an responsibly an didn't have ta have all these dumb laws on th books ta force those that don't care about anythang but themselves ta protect th rest of society.

So we can just make it more convenient fer everyone, lets just suspend all th laws that pertain ta them nuance thangs like speedin laws, drunk drivin an all DUI laws, stop signs, stop lights, yield signs, pollution laws an th like. We don't need em. After all, it all happens in surroundin cities, presumably with not a terribly negative impact there. After all, who really grieves over th loss of someone wiped out by a drunk driver? Just a couple of friends an family members. It's not a terribly negative impact fer th rest of th community.

An since all these pesky ole laws are a nuance, lets do away with dog licenses an let all of em run th streets, do away with th laws that govern sound emissions from homes an cars ya can hear half a mile away. Eliminate th laws pertainin ta exhaust systems on cars. Cars run more efficiently with headers anyway so we can tune th exhaust systems ta really sound cool, increase engine efficiency an totally eliminate mufflers.

Got a barkin dog problem. No problem at all. Since ya did away with those laws ya can duke it out with yer neighbor an if it's yer dog that is causin th problem have yer neighbor simply poison it.

Wonder who's kiddin who here? Exactly now fer do ya wanna cut when doin away with all these laws that everyone don't agree with?

No on Fireworks inside th city limits. If ya wanna pop em off, do it somewhare else an not inside th City. Hey, ya can go over ta th community ya bought em in an pop em off thair.

That way ya can leave all th trash thair in that community fer em ta clean up usin thair tax dollars an not th tax dollars in Tracy. An might I suggest ya do in in thair hospital's parkin lot. Then if someone gets hurt ya don't gotta take em ta th hospital cus yer already thair.
ertion
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May 15, 2011
fireworks are available in surrounding cities, presumably with not a terribly negative impact there.

fireworks are widely used in Tracy anyway. At most, TFD comes through the neighborhoods occasionally, giving a 15 minute warning to use em up and stop by that time.

just sell em. they've been used in communities for years. yes some people will injure themselves. But folks will injure themselves in all sorts of ways doing all sorts of things, just like the fellow who burnt himself here in Tracy with reloading gunpowder the last year or two.

You'll never make life injury proof. Quit kiddin' yourself.
shelly13
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May 13, 2011
I agree with the writer. I think his point is that there are many things out there that can cause harm. If people are taught to use them correctly and responsibly then the incidences of tragedy would be very low.

You just cannot keep banning everything. Where is it going to stop?
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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May 13, 2011
Thought of another thang.

Th writer talks about cars an outlawin em cus people kill each other an themselves with em.

Well that's a little over th top but consider this.

Should we allow cars ta drive on public sidewalks because they can an some people thank thairs nothin wrong with it?

Don't th same thang really apply with fireworks an considerin ta allow em inside th city limits when it's much safer fer everyone if thair kept out in th county whair most people don't live?

Or, usin th writers logic, we should probably let drunk drivers be an allow em ta drive while drunk. After all, look at all th taxes on alcohol that brings in money an not everyone has a problem with alcohol? They don't hurt all that many people when ya consider how many people take a drink every now an then.

See now quickly th logic of everyone does it an everyone likes it starts ta break down when ya change th word fireworks ta drinkin alcohol?

An while we're at it, since thairs so much money ta be made an I am quite sure many of our teenagers would like it, why don't we just lower th drinkin age or just abolish it all tagether?

When I was a kid I use ta drink beer with my Dad in public places in Texas, providin that he was th one who gave it ta me, an no one had a problem with it.

No one had a problem with it back then because Dad didn't have alcoholic tendencies but enjoyed a cool one every now an then like most responsible drinkers. An he didn't want me ta experiment with it an possibly turn inta an alcoholic so he would give it ta me an teach me how ta conduct myself in a civilized society appropriately.

Ever wonder why they can't do that now in Texas or anywhare else I can thank of? Could it possibly be because of all the parents with no common sense that didn't really care all that much about it so th State had ta make it illegal fer everyone?

Th same sort of thang applies ta fireworks inside th city limits.

An since we're on th topic of cars an cars killin people, we passed some safety laws makin it illegal ta use cell phones an text while behind th wheel. But ya still see a bunch of people ignorin those laws because they don't thank it's right. An then they teach thair children that if they don't agree with it, like seat belt laws an helmet laws fer motorcycles or kids on bicycles, that it's OK ta break th law.

After all, those laws are always fer someone else ta obey, just like th ban on fireworks in th city limits.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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May 13, 2011
Considerin how dry it is in Texas an how many fires they have had recently in th state, I am seriously wonderin if creatin more fires by allowin fireworks ta be sold is really a good idea.

In short, usin Texas as an example at present isn't gonna get ya very far with th folks that keep up with th national news. Bein from Texas myself I would have thought a fellow Texan would have known about them fires.

Th problem ain't th illiterate children bein raised, it's th illiterate or should I say self servin or perhaps parents with no common sense that's a raisin em.

I like fireworks as well as th next guy but allowin in in a city ta be set off by people who really don't care how thair used in th driest months of th year don't seem ta be a good idea.

Now if ya wanna go out ta th delta an set em off in th county over water whair thair not gonna burn up th place, have fun an enjoy yerself. Let me know when ya do an I'll probably join ya.

But doin it in a city residential neighborhood, just cause ya thank it's OK, is nothin more than selfishness at th expense of those livin around ya.

I say no ta fireworks of any type in town but if ya wanna go out an do it in th county I got no problem with it.

An I am one who does know how ta set em off, what ta watch out fer an how to put em out if they don't pop. In fact, I know how ta make em completely frum scratch, which I doubt more than one or two in th entire city knows how ta do without blowin themselves an thair families up.

An no, when I manufacture em I don't do it anywhare near a city or a home whair people could be hurt should an accident occur.

Allowin it in th city so someone can make some money off of it ain't such a good idea even though th money aspect of it makes it sound viable.
TracyGuy95376
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May 13, 2011
so....is this about fireworks, or cars? I think I'm with you on the firework issue, but I think you're flying solo on the rest.


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