Police Log: Driver bears down on rock-throwing teen
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Officers arrested a 49-year-old woman who allegedly hit a teenager with her vehicle on Friday, Jan. 25, because the boy was throwing rocks at her car as she drove past him.

The incident happened around 1:15 p.m. in the area of East and 22nd streets.

The driver told police that when the teen began throwing rocks at her vehicle, she turned around and drove at him, allegedly striking the teen.

The boy, who appeared to be uninjured according to witnesses, then got up and started more rocks at the woman’s vehicle. The driver called police, who then arrested her for assault with a deadly weapon, according to the log.

Officers were unable to locate the teen, who witnesses thought was about 18 to 19 years old. The woman said she was scared that the teenager might have been involved in a gang.

Tracy police received 634 calls for service Thursday, Jan. 23, to Sunday, Jan. 27. The following is a sample of those reports.



Sunday

6:22 p.m.: Police responded to the 1900 block of Knollcrest Lane, where a 10-year-old girl allegedly hit a teenager in the hand with a bat. The girl was allegedly surrounded by a small group of teenaged boys, so she grabbed a bat and hit one of the boys. Officers were unable to locate the teens.

11:03 p.m.: Officers arrested a 53-year-old woman for burglary for allegedly stealing merchandise from the Safeway at 1801 W. 11th St.



Saturday

2:55 a.m.: A 23-year-old man was arrested during a traffic stop on the 500 block of West Clover Road for having two outstanding warrants from Alameda County.

2:02 p.m.: Officers cited and released a 34-year-old man who had an outstanding warrant for a battery charge from an unknown police department. The man was stopped because he was trying to fight customers at Raley’s, 2550 S. Tracy Blvd., as they entered the store.

7:19 p.m.: A homeowner living on the 800 block of Saffron Drive reported returning home to find his front door open and laptop stolen.



Friday

12:28 a.m.: A 43-year-old woman was arrested for an outstanding warrant from Santa Clara County. It was discovered during a traffic stop on the 1100 block of North Tracy Boulevard.

7:09 p.m.: Police arrested a 38-year-old man on one charge of driving under the influence. The man allegedly struck a street light somewhere on Grant Line Road east of MacArthur Drive before driving into a ditch, where officers found him.



Thursday

2:14 a.m.: Police arrested a 24-year-old man on the 3800 block of North Tracy Boulevard for an outstanding warrant for driving under the influence. The warrant was discovered during a pedestrian stop.

4:41 a.m.: A 33-year-old man was arrested at the Motel 6, 3810 N. Tracy Blvd., on charges of burglary and receiving stolen property. He allegedly stole from five people who were able to identify their property following the arrest. Three of the victims had property wroth more than $400. The man was taken to San Joaquin County Jail in French Camp.

7:35 a.m.: Officers arrested a 20-year-old man who climbed on the roof of his parents’ house on the 1200 block of Wilson Ave. The man allegedly climbed on the roof after refusing to leave the property. Fire crews responded, and police tried to talk the man down before using two ladders to get him. He was arrested when he descended under his own power after about 30 minutes on the roof. Officers charged him with trespassing.

8:48 a.m.: An employee at Bohn Elementary School, 350 E. Mount Diablo Ave., reported an adult stroked the hair of a first-grade student who was not the person’s child. A school resource officer responded to the school about two hours after the initial report. They left the school at 11:46 a.m.

8:52 a.m.: A student at Stein High School, 650 W. 10th St., was cited for possession of marijuana before officers took the student home and released them to the custody of a parent.

• This column includes a sample of items as reported in the Tracy Police Department dispatcher’s daily log. Additional information is based on reports from officers and other law enforcement agencies. All those arrested are assumed innocent until proven guilty, and charges may have been dropped or added as of publication. To report information anonymously about a crime: Crime Stoppers, 831-6847.

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Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 05, 2013
pw

Oh, you mean th comment ya made on th 31st an not th 31st post. Took me a second ta figure it out.

It will be an interestin case an yes, I can see an arrest bein warranted but I can also see it not goin ta trial unless thair is stronger evidence than th witnesses an a confession without th person allegedly hurt.

Most certainly th response of tryin ta run th kid over, even though I can understand th frustration, but wastin tax dollars on such a flimsy case isn't gonna make it any better.

Hopefully th person hit will come forward ta testify an then a better case can be made. So far I haven't seen any indication that will happen so it will probably be a waste of time an money.

Won't really comment on CR as enough has already been said an it don't really matter anyway.
pinkwillow
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February 04, 2013
Ornley,

Check the 31st post, that's what I wanted to know If you read it. It answered your questions.
pinkwillow
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February 02, 2013
Hello Ornley, any response?

How bout you Chris " lack of brains" Roberts.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 03, 2013
pinkwillow

Thought I did already. Yep, did it on January 29th. Ya must have missed it. Scroll down.

Thanks fer thankin of me though.
goarmy2
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January 31, 2013
The only brain dead commentary I see repeatedly these days is from ChrisRoberts. Just guessing here, but ChrisRoberts may have spent too much time in the back of a police car based on his rapier like wit and constructive commentary.
JimNeighbor
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January 31, 2013
And the funny thing is. it happened after the kid with the BBgun incident. That's why he don't like the popo.
ChrisRoberts
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January 31, 2013
Brain dead Tracy Pd acting like rednecks once again.
Wobbley
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January 30, 2013
No victim, no crime. Rocks are also deadly weapons, just ask David.

backinblack
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January 29, 2013
IMHO, Let's see if a little knowledge helps change your view. "You don't pull a gun and shoot someone for punching you do you?"

Well, at the very least the answer is maybe. It's a fact people have been killed by someones bare hands. It's also a fact people have died from a single punch. Therefor shooting the attacker could be justifed.

Throwing rocks at a moving vehicle should be considered assault with a deadly weapon and in that context the woman and the rest of us have the right to defend ourselves and if our vehicle is our defense of choice so be it, I don't give a damn about the attacker being injured.

Over reaction or sensationalism on my part? Not when you know the following facts, disclaimer, I was in the glass business for 23 years so I know how glass breaks and the sound it can make.

A windshield is laminated so if it's hit by a rock or other flying object it's going to crack but for the most part will maintain it's integrity. However, if the impact has enough force some glass debris could detach and fly in someones face. That alone is not going to kill someone but it sure as hell can damage their eyes or cause them to lose control of the vehicle.

cont
backinblack
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January 29, 2013
Although some vehicles now have laminated backglasses & doorglasses most are tempered. Tempered glass is quite interesting. You can take a flat piece of any size, lay it on a flat surface, tap a corner or edge with a hammer and it will shatter nice & quite like and although in a whole bunch of small pieces will maintain it's general shape. You can actually go to some furniture stores and see coffee & end table tops made using this technique.

Take that same piece of tempered glass, stand it up and hit it in the body, you are still going to have a whole bunch of small pieces but it will literally explode and sound like a loud bang. In the case of a curved piece of tempered glass such as in vehicles, multiply the force and sound of the explosion, it can sound like a gun, believe me.

Now lets apply this to our situation. If a rock is thrown at a doorglass at a high enough velocity to break it, it will explode. The small pieces of glass on their own will not kill someone but in this case they could cause some pretty good abrasions. Between the sound and the flying glass any one of us could loose control of a vehicle, or swerve as a reaction. Unless you are unreasonable you would have to agree this could lead to all kinds of bad things.

The vehicle hits a tree or other solid object, the driver & passengers could get hurt or die. The driver swerves and hits another vehicle, people can get hurt or die. Worse case, the driver swerves into a a person or a group, people can get hurt or die.

Granted, some 5 year old with no arm throwing a rock at a passing car is one thing, but in this case it was allegedly a 18 or 19 year old. As far as I'm concerned this woman was being attacked and was in danger so she responded, period end of story, the punk gets what he gets.

Oh yea, what if a rock thrown at a vehicle and at the right angle flies through an open window and hits the woman in the head? I believe people have died from being hitting hit in the head with a rock.

Me crazy? Hardly, I just know certain facts you seem to be unaware of. Rather than worrying about the miscreant may you should ask, what if the woman was killed?
Kenai2003
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March 06, 2013
Thanks for support. I was trying to get my son away who was getting in fight and I was attacked with boulders not rocks. Huge dents in my vehicle - he came running in front of me. All dents are on my side not the passenger side. I did what any mother would do.
TracyCAcommuter
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January 29, 2013
To me, the lady made one mistake. If she was prepared to deal with the kid, she shouldn't have called 911.
backinblack
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January 29, 2013
When I was 18 or 19 I was busting my butt working at 1:15 on any weekday, and this miscreant is out throwing rocks at cars?

I'm with Sneaky and in a just world here's what should happen.

The police track down this punk and charge him with assault with a deadly weapon.

The woman is applauded by all for defending herself and standing up to protect her property and person.

The parents of the punk are forced to pay for any damage done to the womans car. While their miscreant kid gets thrown in jail, they get handed a couple of orange vests for 52 weekends and are forced to sing hi ho hi ho it's off to work we while standing in line to get on the magic bus full of miscreants.

Oh but wait, the soft people in our society who make excuses for criminals will say the woman turned around when she could have kept going. I say bs, the little punk got what he deserved. Actually he didn't get what he deserved as he appeared to be uninjured - too bad.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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January 29, 2013
Well while I understand th frustration I don't thank what she did, or rather allegedly did, was th correct thang ta actually do.

Actually I wanted ta pose a question, or actually several if ya wanna be precise.

First, don't she have ta have an accuser in order ta be arrested an convicted of this alleged crime?

Second, th cops apparently weren't thair an while thair were several witnesses how do th cops really know she struck this kid with her car?

What if she actually didn't an in a stressed frame of mind thought she did, was told she did an so she confessed to it as a good citizen really should?

Yep, I sort of agree th punk got what he deserved an apparently is uninjured which makes me wonder if she really hit him or just perhaps nudged him.

Hopefully both of em larned somethang frum th ordeal an it won't happen again.

As I recall, in a court of law, ya still have th right ta face yer accuser an since th cops couldn't find this unknown young adult, I can't see how th court could convict her of th crime.

Sneaky
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January 29, 2013
"...hit a teenager with her vehicle on Friday, Jan. 25, because the boy was throwing rocks at her car as she drove past him."

I have no problem with this.

The little pecker deserved it. If you want to threaten the safety of a law abiding citizen dont be surprised when they turn the tables on you.
IMHO
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January 29, 2013
I have a major problem with this. You don't pull a gun and shoot someone for punching you do you? It's the same thing. Yes, the punk kid should have been arrested too, but this lady has NO right using a car as a weapon against him. She should have driven away and called the cops and her insurance company. Anyone that thinks she was right in hitting a kid with her car is outright crazy. What if the kid was killed? Would she still have been within her rights? Come on people.
Icare!
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January 29, 2013
Those who engage in risky behavior are likely to get hurt one way or another, throw a rock at somebody and they may throw a bigger rock back at you. While I agree she should have driven away from the threat and called the police and gave them a description I have to say if it were me and the rock came in the car and hit my wife or another passenger causing injury my natural impulse would be to go after the little jerk and he might get hurt, especially if he started to throw another rock at us again. Unfortunately this town is full of little worthless jerks who throw rocks, vandalize and steal daily along with many other illegal activities, you can call the PD but their response is often way too long so the creeps get away. Heck, even when you catch the little jerks and the police show up they are very often just given a slap on the hands and let go. Sorry Tracy PD, we need to treat some of these petty things more serious, they do lead to bigger and worse activities, these creeps don't fear you enough.
Bird_Man
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January 29, 2013
Question for IMHO - What are your thoughts if the teen (an adult if really 18 or 19) throws a rock at another car and that rock kills the driver or a passenger or the reaction the driver takes as a result of having their vehicle struck by a rock results in the death or serious injury of another person?

Do you believe that rocks are not deadly?
pinkwillow
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January 31, 2013
Ornley,

One- no you don't need a victim to arrest or convict. You need probable cause to arrest. If you have the suspect calling in and confessing to the crime and independent witnesses who saw the crime. That would lead a reasonable person to believe the crime occurred. is it easier with the victim? Yes, of course. If you kill your wife, bury her so there's nobody to "accuse" you, does that mean you can't be arrested?

Two- you don't have to actually hit the person for it to be a crime. If I shoot at you and miss its still assault with a deadly weapon. If she turned her car around and tried to hit the little dirt bag, that forms the intent to commit the crime.

And your last point. The witnesses are the accusers in this case, as is the suspect who probably has a nice recorded confession on the police phone line.

Just physical evidence can convict you, you don't have to have one witness or victim to be convicted.

So no, you don't have a right to face your accuser if there isn't one.


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