City Council to discuss status of public trust
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The Tracy City Council will discuss whether to take up the issue of restoring faith in city government during its next regular meeting March 4.

During the regular meeting of the council Tuesday, Michael Maciel, mayor pro tem, acknowledged that recent events — including revelations that City Manager Leon Churchill misused a city credit card — have strained the public’s trust.

“I think the issues go well beyond Mr. Churchill,” Maciel said, “and I would like to have us consider a discussion or perhaps some sort of workshop where we would talk about ways, on many different fronts, for those whose confidence in the city government has wavered, where we could find ways to restore that confidence.”

Maciel wants the council to be proactive in reaching out to residents.

Councilman Robert Rickman took the opportunity to call for another review of Churchill’s performance.

“The trust and confidence is strained and you can’t deny that,” Rickman said. “If we are going to have a plan to move forward, I think that’s something that needs to be discussed.”

Rickman asked for a closed session to review Churchill’s performance, which is legally the only thing relating to the city manager that can be considered in closed session. Maciel disagreed.

“I’m not talking about Mr. Churchill’s situation. That’s done with. We have acted on Mr. Churchill’s situation as a personnel matter and that’s done with,” the mayor pro tem said.

Maciel’s request was placed on the March 4 calendar for the regular meeting beginning at 7 p.m. Rickman’s request for a closed session before that meeting was approved with a 3-1 vote. Rickman and council members Charles Manne and Nancy Young voted to open a new review of the city manager. Maciel voted against it, and Mayor Brent Ives, who left the meeting early, was absent for the vote.

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rayderfan
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April 01, 2014
Here's why the County DA, James Willett, wouldn't pursue charges against Churchill. It seems Willett was in a bit of hot water himself.

Hmmmm. I guess he didn't have time to take care of business in Tracy, he was to busy trying to protect himself from damages.

Here's the article.

Jury: District Attorney James Willett retaliated against investigator (UPDATED)

By The Record

April 01, 2014 1:30 PM

STOCKTON – San Joaquin County District Attorney James Willett retaliated against an investigator , making the county liable to pay the former employee more than $2 million, according to a jury's verdict in a federal lawsuit.

The civil jury unanimously agreed on the finding and the Monday verdict came with a penalty for the county that includes lost wages and general damages.

Janis Trulsson, an ex-assistant chief investigator for the county prosecutor's office, said Willett orchestrated a plan to keep her from being promoted to chief, court documents say.

Trulsson said Willett strategically had the then-chief hold off on his retirement, allowing time to pass until she was laid off so that a less qualified male would be promoted.
Island006
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February 26, 2014
City Manager Leon Churchill "misused" a city credit card? City Manager Leon Churchill embezzled public funds and was subsequently fired is what should be done! He stole from us and should be held accountable!

Michael Maciel, mayor pro tem, should be fired also for not holding Churchill responsible.

Our city leaders should be held to a higher standard such as not stealing from the public!
rosa62
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February 27, 2014
100% Correct Island006.
Hahahahahaha
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March 06, 2014
According to this very recent article, Leon Churchill's actually a really cool guy.

http://www.indyposted.com/243565/leon-churchill-business-strategy/
rosa62
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March 06, 2014
Oh Yeah. He was a legend in his own mind.

If you don't believe me just ask Churchill, he'll tell you.
ReasonPlease
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March 17, 2014
Fire who, everyone? Is there a plausible reason for keeping the city's dirty laundry private? Perhaps. Did the City Manager have contacts or negotiations in process that were in the best interest of the city, which outweighed his misconduct?

The continued mudslinging damages Tracys' reputation as a place to do business. How about appointing a special master, or citizen review board, binding them to a non disclosure agreement, and cleaning house Top to Bottom.

If the cities policies and regulations are so poorly written, that deliberate repeated misuse of public funds allow anything other than termination for cause, with no golden parachute, they need to be updated.

Tracy is a city in transition, from a small rural community, to a commuter haven where too many know little more than the way home.

Enough is enough. Make your decision at the next election. Or make a complaint to the CA Attorney General or FBI.
YuckyYucky
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February 24, 2014
Because I know a guy working in the Amazon warehouse. That's why. It's very simple. Even a cop . Oh never mind.
108MW
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February 24, 2014
The "fudge". Government employee.
YuckyYucky
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February 24, 2014
Volunteer for local government to keep the cost of government down.
Sero7
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February 24, 2014
I am stunned that Ornley_Gumfudgen thinks this was all dealt with. "No real harm was done ta anyone an no public monies were at risk". That is an unbelievable statement and have to assume Ornley must be a shill for the "Good Old Boys Club". The Top Dog City Manager steals from the city and it's citizens and he admits guilt only because he got caught with his hands in the cookie jar, and pays it back, and well, everything has been dealt with! Wow!!! Well, lets all go rob a gas station or bank and if we get caught, well just admit to doing it and give the money back you took and we will call it a day! Let me see if the average citizen does what Churchill did and see how it gets dealt with! Oh Ornley, regardless of what you Mr Helm's motive is has no bearing on the situation. A crime was committed and exposed regardless of the motive and it needs to be dealt with not just well, "It must have been a lapse of judgement". I have company credit cards I carry and I have my own personal cards and I have no problem distinguishing which one's are to be used for which purpose. Unbelievable!!!!!!!
jarbuckle
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February 24, 2014
Ornley,

Your forgetting something. Ives can still run for city council. He is not out of the picture yet. "Just simply pointin out th errors in yer logic."

DHELM
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February 24, 2014
Ornely why is truth in government an offensive idea?
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 24, 2014
DHELM

I don't find truth in government offensive. In fact I applaud truth in government.

What I find offensive is people who dig for dirt, fer one reason or another, say they have reams of it but don't do anythang with it, as if possessin th information is enough.

Take this current discussion over Leon's transgressions with th City Credit Card.

Fer me, it was caught an dealt with. No real harm was done ta anyone an no public monies were at risk. Fer me, what remedial action taken against Leon is enough an I'm satisfied.

You obviously are not. That's cool. So instead of yer litany of accusations an machinations I or no one else really needs ta see what ya got. Why? Because we really can't do much about it except carp about it if we wanna.

Th proper people ta deal with this, assuumin it needs ta be dealt with, have already been identified ta ya. Give yer information ta them an if they feel ya got a case thangs will be done about it an yer mission gets accomplished.

But we both know that ain't happenin. Why? Because ya say ya got th goods on em but apparently haven't done anythang constructive with it.

If th person ya take it to feels different frum ya, cont.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 24, 2014
cont fer DHELM

then ya loose an that's th way th ball bounces. In that case who let ya down? Th City Counsel or yer elected State Attorney General who is supposed ta investigate an prosecute such thangs.

It's much easier ta work within th established governmental system than ta buck it an go it alone without any real support.

So, th ball is really in yer court. Ya have stated on more than one occasion ya got th goods on em but so far no one of any importance has apparently seen it. Or if they have they don't agree with ya that thair is somethang that needs ta be done about it.

An thank ya in advance fer a well praised an non threatenin question.
victor_jm
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February 24, 2014
For at least 25 years, I have been asking myself when "the proper people" will do something about illegal immigration, but I've come to realize they won't do anything "constructive" about it, because they really don't have to.

This--"they really don't have to"--attitude is what bothers me about this situation and many other situations in life.

Many people are trying to keep themselves afloat; they don't care about what is going on politically--unless it benefits them. We really are politically apathetic.

"Apathy is one of America's greatest problems--but who cares?"

--Anonymous

YuckyYucky
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February 24, 2014
The president got a lot of immigrant votes, why would he want to stop a good thing. LoL. I'm kidding. I'm sure he isn't worried about being replaced by someone born in another country. Tounge in cheek. Get it?
DHELM
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February 24, 2014
Yucky-What does Amazon or jobs have to do with Churchill abusing his credit card? Dont know what Rickman over his meals-A prayer maybe?

Ornely-Not running for office.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 24, 2014
"Yucky-What does Amazon or jobs have to do with Churchill abusing his credit card?"

I thank Yucky is talkin about all th good work Churchill an Ives apparently did ta get Amazon ta locate here. But that an th jobs it brings ta Tracy Citizens so they can better support themselves ain't apparently important ta some people.

"Dont know what Rickman over his meals-A prayer maybe?" "Meals-A Prayer?" What's that about?

"Ornely-Not running for office." No, but yer sure playin th political game ta get someone ya like elected ta counsel. Just because yer politickin don't mean yer runnin fer office. George Sorus does th same thang an has never been elected ta a political office ta my knowledge.

YuckyYucky
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February 23, 2014
I won't vote for anyone who mucks with Amazon and jobs. Any candidate who wants to throw him under the bus can do so after I get a job at Amazon. Till then stop being pulled by amateur political activists and grow a pair. People want jobs not to drag the mud on for weeks and months. You people on the council have an opportunity to set an example in how you deal with employees, professionally. Not to go wishy washy on your performance review. What's done is done.

I read the same sophomoric and boorish comments for almost a month. Nobody cares anymore. We want jobs not politics and morons screaming at employees who can bring jobs to town. They chased Theissen away after she did a good job, so we know who these people are and what kind of witch hunters they are like.
bobrod
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February 23, 2014
New Expanded Websters:

Consorious; One who is addicted to CENSOR. Thank you for your censor of my post on 02/23/2014.
bobrod
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February 23, 2014
Cont.

Restriction of Free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could easily defeat us.

Justice William O Douglas (Media quote).
YuckyYucky
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February 23, 2014
So, rasist bigots inciting hatred toward black people would be acceptable to the ol judge ?
bobrod
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February 24, 2014
Yucky-Yucky, I won't even justify that with an answer, I think your a little off topic.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 24, 2014
Are ya certain it was censored an not removed by accident? Post it again in it's entirety an if they censor it again it's probably because ya broke one of thair civil rules.

Fer one, they ain't censorin yer right of speech. Ya can do that in any place owned by th public at large. But they are under no obligation ta regurgitate what ya write here as they own th server an as such have th write ta determine what it's gonna contain.

Be grateful they allow ya a soundin board ta express yer thoughts an ideas with very liberal rules ya have ta follow in order ta utilize that privilege.

Now if ya don't particularly like that yer free ta start up yer own board or newspaper outlet an then ya can run it any way that ya like.

So, try yer post again an see what happens.
bobrod
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February 23, 2014
Rosa62-Sometimes we all get sucked into having conversations with folks who have been everywhere, done everything, and know it all. I think this is one of those situations. I think the person you are talking with matches that discription, and further conversation will result in more unintelligible dialogue designed to bait you into blogging more. I suspect this person is either a professional blogger, TP staff, or at the very least an advocate for City Hall. He loves to create controversy, then when you do not agree, he/she becomes a victim. He does not consider anyone elses opinions credible because he he doesnt know what they know. His so called achevements, and experiences are over-exexaggerated, and everyone else is wrong but him. (Or her). Reminds me of a quote from Edgar Allen Poe, "All that we see or seem.....is but a dream within a dream"....Get it?
DHELM
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February 23, 2014
Rickman, Young and Manne have yet to speak publicly, so they are getting a bye for now.

Ives and Maciel have gone on record and lied, so they are being called to task.
YuckyYucky
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February 23, 2014
Rickman didn't speak over dinner?
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 24, 2014
So, since this is obviously an issue with ya, can ya explain how they get that bye when one or more of em are secretly complicit in what ya claim Maciel an Ives has done with Leon?

Thought ya wanted ta clean th "good ole boy" club on City Counsel out? Guess that's just another one of yer failed promises cus it seems apparent yer just playin politics.

An don't feel bad I too would be appalled if ya earned my vote. Ya don't have ta worry on that account, ever! Why? Because ya say one thang a do th other, make a promise ta take action an break that promise by takin no real action at all. Why David, yer a natural fer politics as yer pretty much doin th very same thang that many politicians do.
DHELM
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February 23, 2014
Ornley, haven't been involved in politics ever, certainly not for a decade. If I were in politics, I would be appalled if I earned your vote.
rosa62
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February 23, 2014
After this who is going to stop other city employees from using their city credit cards for personal purchases; Churchill? No, he can't because he does it himself. Ives and Maciel? No, they have condoned Churchill's actions by giving him a week off with pay.

That's the problem with what Churchill has done and that is why he needs to be fired Mr.'s Ives, Maciel and Gumfudgen.

At this point, even if a city employee did use their city credit for a personal purchase there in now, no one at city hall who can take any action to deal with them because of what Churchill has done.

He is the highest ranking person in the city and he is responsible for hiring and firing city employees. He is the person who makes the final decision on firings; and he personally has committed a high crime by stealing from the public for his own benefit.

He lowered the bar and set the expectation for city employees so low that there's no other way to deal with problem.

That is why Churchill needs to be fired and Maciel should not be elected Mayor. Both have proven they can not make good decisions and they can not be trusted to do the right thing regarding the taxpayer's best interest..
rayderfan
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February 23, 2014
Well said rosa62.

This is exactly why the people in Tracy need to stay involved in what goes on at City Hall. This type of thing has been going on for years here in Tracy. It's just that no one ever asks any questions and no one ever checks up on things.

For to many years, the Mayor (Ives) and people like Churchill and Maciel have been able to do whatever they want, and keep it under the surface. This is a text book example of how the "Good Old Boys" in Tracy operate. They sweep things under the carpet and hope the public never finds out.

Thanks to the efforts of people like Mr. Helm these types of things are starting to come to light and it's time "We The People" did something about it. I suggest a phone call or a letter to your City Council representatives to let them know just how you feel and that this type of thing isn't going to fly in anymore here in Tracy.

We all saw this with the situation surrounding the former Police Chief (Theissen) and eventually it got swept under the rug, but not until she was forced to resign due to a lack of public trust. Who were her top supporters? Maciel, Churchill...

Time to clean house at the City Hall Club.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 23, 2014
rosa

Ya give me far to much credit in all of this. I am not involved at all. Just simply pointin out th errors in yer logic which apparently irritates ya because I don't mindlessly agree with yer points of view.

Ives? No worries, he's not runnin fer Mayor

Macie? Perhaps a consairn cus he's apparently viein fer th position as Mayor.

But what ya an th rest apparently have overlooked, in yer zeal ta discredit Ives an Maciel is that they represent two out of five votes on Council. Three out of five is a majority vote. Two out of five ain't.

So while yer lettin Rickman, Manny an Young off on this, remember that at least one of them sided with Ives an Maciel in order fer them ta take th action taken against Leon.

One of them has apparently deceived ya an ya don't know who it is. Ta me that's a larger danger than what Maciel could ever do should he be elected Mayor an Ives is totally out of th political picture.

So, who is it? Who is yer wolf in sheeps clothin? If yer as outraged as ya propose I would thank that you an DHELM would wanna know who that sandbagger is.
rosa62
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February 23, 2014
Stop trying to shift responsibilityfrom Ives and Maciel on to the other council members. You know as well as we do that Ives and Maciel are responsible here. The other council people may have made a mistake but at least they admitted it and decided to go the other direction which is completely the opposite of what Ives Maciel and Chuechill are doing. We are seeing the true Ives and Maciel here.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 23, 2014
rosa62

"Stop trying to shift responsibility from Ives and Maciel on to the other council members."

First of all I am not shiftin responsibility frum anyone ta anyone. They are all responsible. If they made a mistake, they need to correct it.

If they made a mistake by your and other's standards they should be tared an feathered an run out of town on a rail.

Any City Counsel member has th authority ta place thangs on th Counsel agenda fer discussion an decision. Seen it done many times.

Given it would take three members of Council ta make a decision stick, involvin what th City should do ta Leon, ya have someone in th woodwork that ya think is on yer side that ain't. It's as simple as that.

But it seems yer pride won't enable ya ta see somethang so blatantly obvious ta others.

cont

Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 23, 2014
Cont fer Rosa

"For to many years, the Mayor (Ives) and people like Churchill and Maciel have been able to do whatever they want, and keep it under the surface."

People like em? Who are these "people" that have been doin this fer "to many years." Who are they? Be specific please so all of us will know.

Yer just irritated in that I caught a flaw in yer logic as ya castigate Maciel an Ives an are reluctant ta identify th third Counsel member that made it all possible.

Now, just answer th question as ta who this apparent unknown Counsel person is an we can go about replacin him as well. What? Ya tryin ta stuff th ballot with yer favorite candidate?

Better an more educated lawyers, have attempted that an failed. Or don't ya remember that fiasco that cost th citizens of Tracy gobs of money wasted?

Ya see Rosa, assumin yer claims ta be true, which ya still haven't convinced many they are true, if ya could demonstrate intentional malfeasance that would stand th scrutiny in a court of law, I am simply not gonna take yer word fer it.

As I have said, this has been goin on fer almost a decade, Ives, Maciel, an many others, yet th majority of Tracy Citizens supported em an believed in them enough ta elect em.

On th flip side, you an others in this comment section have belabored yer points ta th point of absurdity.

IF ya got th goods on Maciel an Ives, do th right thang an bring it inta a court of law. Fer almost a decade I an others have listened ta this tripe an th people spewin it have yet ta take a concrete step ta do th right thang an bring th matter fer a court ta rule on.

That tells me a others that ya don't have th information ya claim ta have an are simply sturin th political pot, bein that November replaces th Mayor an two members of Counsel.

People far more adept at law have tried ta stuff thair people on City Counsel an failed so why should we give you an yer kind any consideration at all?

Yer actions speak louder than yer words an since thair's been no apparent action yer words are invalid.

Sayin yer studyin it an sayin yer gonna do it is much different than actually doin it an after almost ten years a rational person would thank that if there was somethang to it it would get done.

If ya wanna do somethang, do it legally. What yer proposin ta be done ain't th right way ta correct th problem, assumin a problem really exists.

All of that is why I don't believe you or DHELM as I have grown tired of listenin ta it fer almost a decade now.

Ya drone on an on on how they have broken thair word an not kept thair promises.

What's good fer th goose is good fer th gander.

So I am callin ya on it, prove yer good intentions an take th matter ta th only place whair it can be correctly dealt with, a court of law, or as ya pointed out ta me, th State Attorney General. That's what we pay her ta do.

If ya can't convince her, how can ya convince anyone else? No one else has th authority ta properly deal with it accordin ta th law ya advised me ta read.

What? Can't take yer own medicine? Is that pill yer askin th citizens of Tracy ta follow to bitter fer ya ta take? It certainly seems so.

An no, th likes of you or th threats others impugn against me ain't gonna shut my mouth an inhibit my right of free speech no matter how hard ya try.

Sort of galls ya don't it?

Note: Not once have I attempted to squelch your right of freedom of speech. Yet on several occasions you an others have attempted ta deny me th same right. Why is that? Are ya somehow better than everyone else an that gives ya that right?

Perplexin.



rosa62
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February 23, 2014
Mr. Gumfudgen I understand your point but happen to disagree with you. Not sure who, in your mind, deemed you as the only rational poster on this website but I have to say that your completely inaccurate.

I guess we will just have to see where this goes and whether, or not, that mysterious third councilman steps up to admit their decision. In fact you can check the minutes of the closed session to see how they voted. Either way, hour opinion doesn't concern me either way.

Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 24, 2014
rosa62

"I understand your point but happen to disagree with you." Really? Wonder how I missed that?

"ot sure who, in your mind, deemed you as the only rational poster on this website..." Apparently you but that's inaccurate cus many of rational people post here. If ya note, I don't usually bother th rational ones but rather point out th inaccuracies of th irrational ones.

". . . but I have to say that your completely inaccurate." Really? What part is inaccurate? Th part about at least one more counsel bein complicit in this conspiracy ya have apparently invented? Or that ya just cant contain yerself an are compelled ta say somethang? What is it? What's so inaccurate? Is it that I use th thangs ya write ta use against ya that bothers ya? Whair is th inaccuracy? When ya have proved me wrong, as with who should prosecute this, I admitted it? Yep, the ole State Attorney General, even though ya failed ta tell everyone that portion of th law, probably because it didn't go along with what ya wanna see done.

"I guess we will just have to see where this goes and whether, or not, that mysterious third councilman steps up to admit their decision." With all yer vitriol do ya honestly thank they will?

"In fact you can check the minutes of the closed session to see how they voted." I am not th one that's really all that interested in it. I feel what was done was enough an th correct action. It's you who feel slighted so perhaps if yer really all that consarned about cleanin up th "good ole boy" club on City Counsel that would be of monumental importance ta ya. Or are ya just usin this as a soundin board ta promote yer favorite candidate in an attempt ta gain political favoritism? It's a fair question, after all, ya have basically accused me of doin th same thang on many occasions. So, which is it Rosa?

"Either way, hour opinion doesn't concern me either way." It must, otherwise ya would have caught yer typo that ya made in yer hasty reply. That an ya keep replyin with lame logic ta cover yerself.

Yer obviously not much interested in correctin th problems ya say exist. Otherwise ya would take th action ya propose should be taken.

Note: Normally it takes three outa five fer counsel ta do thangs. At minimum it takes two outa three otherwise a quorum can't conviene a 2/3 attendance ta act on anythang.

So, assumin it was two out of three an th two were Ives an Maciel. But who was th unknown third an how did he vote? Ya don't care? It don't matter? If that's true it shore don't sound like yer very serious about cleanin up yer City Counsel ya seem ta thank is so bad.

rosa62
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March 06, 2014
Mr. Gumfudgen I have been thinking about your comments regarding that mysterious 3rd Councilman or as you refer to them;

"yer wolf in sheeps clothin"

To be perfectly honest with you, I do not want to know who that third vote was. In fact, I am happy to see that three of our elected officials stood together to make a decision and were not swayed or bullied by the two votes on the Council who profess to know better than anyone else what is best for the Citizens of Tracy.

This brings me to my point. In a Democratic Republic, it is the voters who make the decisions not the elder statesmen who profess to know best. In this case the voters have spoken; and if you ask me;

"It's about damn time that the elected officials of Tracy listened to We the People."

For too long elder statesmen, or as I like to refer to them, the Good Old Boys like Ives, Maciel, Tolbert, Tucker, Bilbrey (God Rest His Soul) and others have professed to know what was best for the citizens. And the voice of the public be damned, they were going to do what they felt was best, because they were elected by the public.

What they have failed to tell us, over the years is who... cont:
rosa62
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March 06, 2014
made their election to public office possible.

I would venture to say there were alot of special interests involved in getting them elected; via campaign contributions; fund raisers; unofficial support and persuasion; specifically arm twisting, to get the Good Old Boys favorites elected so the Good Old Boys network could get what they wanted.

You know, things like "uncontrolled growth", "inside influence at City Hall', etc...

So you see, Mr Gumfudgen, when you say things like who is that "Wolf in sheeps clothing" it makes me realize the you need to think about what you're saying before you say it. Keep in mind that it is very easy for anyone in Tracy to ask "Who is the Wolf in Sheeps Clothing that kept Churchill, and others like him, around for so long?"

Understand that any elected official, whether at the City, County, State, or Federal level all answer to the voters in the community; regardless of what voter cast a ballot for them. Once they are elected, by a majority vote, they are required to represent the best interests of "all the voters" not just those who voted for them.

This is where I believe people like yourself are missing the point. The Citizens of Tracy "We the People" continually expressed our distaste for Mr. Churchill's actions and our Mayor's (Ives) and our Mayor-Pro-Tem's (Maciel) continued support of someone who would lie to his employer by failing to tell them what he did until he was caught red handed, and steel, by using his city credit card for his own personal benefit, from the very people who pay his salary. This tells me, and from the word on the street, many others that they have been fed up with this type of behavior, which FYI, has been going on here in Tracy for many years.

So to summarize; I am glad we had at least one City Councilperson who was willing to change their vote and side with the other two who clearly had the nerve to challenge the "Mayor and Mayor-Pro-Tem" by changing their vote.

Unfortunately, I know you will not agree with my opinion, as listed above, but that's OK by me. You see, we live in a country that encourages differing opinions and also affords everyone the ability and the right to change their minds and go against the system to achieve changes.
vocallocal
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February 22, 2014
Message to ALL city employees of Tracy. As long as your doing your job, use your city issued credit card for any and all personal expenditures. Bet Leon is not an isolated incident. Chronic abuse until your caught is standard operating procedure, approved by Ives and Maciel..
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 23, 2014
vocallocal

An apparently one or more other members of Council that apparently went along with th action Ives an Maciel took. If a quorum was present, an thair was only one dissenting vote, why did th other two not show up ta such an important meetin? Were thair any absentees when th issue on how ta deal with Leon was made by Council? That info could be very revealin don't ya thank? In other words, no matter how ya look at it, Ives an Maciel couldn't have taken this action if thair wasn't at least one other, as yet ta be named, councilperson complicit in thair decision.
YuckyYucky
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February 22, 2014
Some of the comments I saw were just horrible. These people spend their days dwelling on negativity and hatred. The same people spend each city meeting saying negativity and vitriol. We used to see this stuff in the paper and it sickens me that people we live with in our community are full of hate mongering. I remember a day when people in Tracy could put aside differences and work together.

I may not like Leon's use of credit cards, but I like that I have an opportunity to work closer to home. I think he gets jobs for Tracy and I don't care anymore than to know the people at city hall are aware of it because it seems to me Tracy has a potential to move forward job wise if people are willing to mature in how they treat others. Let us move on. That's all I have to say.
YuckyYucky
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February 22, 2014
Some of the comments I saw were just horrible. These people spend their days dwelling on negativity and hatred. The same people spend each city meeting saying negativity and vitriol. We used to see this stuff in the paper and it sickens me that people we live with in our community are full of hate mongering. I remember a day when people in Tracy could put aside differences and work together.

I may not like Leon's use of credit cards, but I like that I have an opportunity to work closer to home. I think he gets jobs for Tracy and I don't care anymore than to know the people at city hall are aware of it because it seems to me Tracy has a potential to move forward job wise if people are willing to mature in how they treat others. Let us move on. That's all I have to say.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 24, 2014
YuckyYucky

Welcome ta th club of rational thankin. It's clear ya got no political ax ta grind. It's been said that I thank I am th only rational person postin thangs here, which definitely ain't true because ya have posted some rational thankin. Kinda like a breath of fresh air.

Ta others, if ya solely concentrate on th negative th negative is all yer gonna see an all th good thangs will pass by completely unnoticed.

DHELM
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February 22, 2014
I wrote a couple of comments last night that were not posted. It is their newspaper. They decide what is news and who gets to post. Well there's always alternatives on the web. I'm on facebook, maybe another forum free from censorship should be set up. Clear at this point the Tracy Press supports Churchill, Ives and Maciel in their attempt to gloss over corruption.
Hahahahahaha
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February 22, 2014
Dave, if you're suggesting the creation of a new, unbiased local newspaper (even if just in online digital form), I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to round up some support and assistance.
YuckyYucky
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February 24, 2014
Oh no the lynchmob news? Yucky!
behonestguys
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February 22, 2014
It is becoming quickly apparent that people in this City are losing faith in their political leadership. Having a "workshop" or other similar community "kumbaya" is meaningless unless the people's wishes as expressed in those discussions are given full effect. Therefore, the Council needs to consider the following - if the only way people will regain trust in local government is by having certain individual Council members agree to step down so new leaders can be elected to the Council in November that do have the people's trust, with the Council acquiesce to those wishes? If they will, great, let us have the discussion as suggested by Mayor Pro Tem Maciel. If they won't acquiesce to the people's wishes of resignation or not running for re-election or for the mayor's seat if that is the message delivered at such a community discussion because certain Council members may want to preserve their own positions of power at all cost, then such a "discussion" would be a farce and efforts should instead be undertaken to effectuate a change in our local government through the ballot box in November.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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February 24, 2014
behonestguys

"the only way people will regain trust in local government is by having certain individual Council members agree to step down so new leaders can be elected to the Council in November that do have the people's trust,"

An those new leaders are?

Did they submit thair papers ta get thair names on th ballot?

Just who are these people that everyone's gonna trust? I don't know em, but apparently you do so who is it?

I'll gladly vote fer someone better if I know who that they are an know that they will be better than what we currently got.

Look, yer elected City Counsel is only gonna be as good as th candidates that run an get elected. Don't see no mad rush ta get on th ballot, do you?
jersey25
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February 22, 2014
I'm glad that they are putting this matter on the next city council mtg agenda.But this will only work if the citzens of tracy show up and fill the council chamber and let there voices be heard.Its one thing to go on line and add a comment on how mad you are regarding this but they need to know face to face that you won't stand for this to use our tax dollars for there private expenses like Leon did. And as far as the Tracy Press goes they need to be reminded that they are violating the citizens of tracy Freedom of Speech. by removing there comments If they don't like what is written they need to take down the the comment section period but let me remind you that that won't stop people from talking about it. Let me remind the current council members that you were elected by us to serve the citizens of tracy and we can recall you at any time by going thru a process.One final thing to the reporters of the tracy Press go out before the next council mtg and talk to the citizens of tracy and not be one sided as you were in the article that was written in your paper period'''.


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