City Council set to fill seat by appointment
by TP staff
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Either Ray Morelos or Charles Manne will be appointed at a special Tracy City Council meeting Tuesday, Jan. 8, to the seat recently vacated by Bob Elliott.

The man who is named to the position during the 5 p.m. meeting at City Hall will serve the remainder of Elliott’s term, which expires in 2014.

Elliott was elected to the San Joaquin County Board of Supervisors in the Nov. 6 election. He resigned from the City Council on Dec. 18 and was sworn into his new position Monday, Jan. 7.

During the most recent City Council meeting Dec. 18, the four sitting council members decided they would limit the applicant pool to the three people who unsuccessfully ran for two City Council seats in November — Morelos, Manne and Roger Birdsall.

The trio lost to first-term Councilwoman Nancy Young and Mayor Pro Tem Michael Maciel, who won his second four-year term on the council.

Both Morelos, who finished third in the election, and Manne, who finished fourth, have told the Press that they will seek the appointment.

Birdsall, however, stated at a Nov. 20 City Council meeting that the person who finished third behind Young and Maciel should be named to the seat.

On Wednesday, Jan. 9, Birdsall said that even though he was eligible under the council’s rules, he would withdraw from consideration for Elliott’s seat and would again encourage the council to appoint the third-place finisher in the election.

The council’s decision to limit the applicant pool was a compromise after an earlier deadlock.

Originally, Maciel and Mayor Brent Ives wanted to open the vacant seat to all eligible Tracy residents, while Young and Councilman Robert Rickman favored either appointing the third-place finisher or at least limiting the pool to those who campaigned for a council seat in 2012.

The council unanimously rejected an idea to conduct a special election to fill the vacancy.

On Tuesday, the council is expected to approve questions drafted by Rickman and Maciel, who volunteered for the subcommittee tasked with creating a list of queries.

Candidates will be expected to answer the questions in open session, and council members will make a nomination and vote.

• Contact Jon Mendelson at 830-4231 or jmendelson@tracypress.com.
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me-here
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January 12, 2013
My hat goes off to Roger Birdsall. His withdrawal in favor of Ray Morelos shows real class.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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January 11, 2013
An I am tryin ta understand why many are upset at City Council fer appointin a replacement ta a position that's normally an elected position while not a peep of decent was heard regardin th TUSD School Board doin exactly th same thang when they appointed someone ta fill an elected position.

Both are elected positions, normally, an both have an impact on th entire community of Tracy. Why th problems with one appointment an no problems with th other?
NoniA
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January 11, 2013
Sorry Ornley, I did not pay attention to that and should have...I will in the future
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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January 11, 2013
NoniA

No need ta apologize ta me that should go ta th rest of th Citizens of Tracy an mostly as an example ta what they themselves have done in that respect.

I just can't seem ta grasp their logic. I don't hate them or anyone else fer it, just don't understand it.
behonestguys
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January 11, 2013
Tracy Unified doesn't vote on developer agreements that are worth millions of dollars to developers that determine how the City's future growth will occur- the City Council does. Big difference. I have more faith in the Tracy Unified trustees doing the right thing because it's all about our kids' education versus the City Council, where it's all about the almighty dollar. Call me cynical.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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January 13, 2013
behonestguys

Yer right, they don't approve developer agreements even though they are consulted on them as they have ta provide schools an education ta go along with those developments.

And when th agreement passes they, TUSD, are th elected body that come up with th fees yer gonna pay out through yer property taxes an Mello Roose fees that are extracted an given ta them ta spend on everythang th school districts spend thair money on.

So in that vein it seems they are just as important an influencial ta yer tax dollar as th City Council is.

They also, by th way, are th people that deal directly with th security an related costs pertainin ta th kids at school an when they are travelin ta an frum school.
pinkwillow
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January 13, 2013
Well Ornley, the school board has no say whatsoever about bringing business to tracy, water, sewer, garbage bills, housing density, roadways, the police, fire dept operations. The entire operation of the city.

Sure they may be consulted on certain issues, but they have no power to make decitions on what affects most peoples daily life's. except when it comes to education.

The councils decitions have a major impact on everyone's quality of life, and that's really all our society is about now. How can my life be easier.
lovemychevy
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January 14, 2013
I think it is silly to say that the school board is less important than the city board. I also think it is silly to use that argument as an excuse to attack the city and neglect to attack the school board. I also think it is silly to say the schools do not get involved in development. Kimball had lots to say about Gateway. TUSD has lots to say about developments and the children who bus or walk to those homes. In fact, the schools are run by the State of California. Another point, last month Monte Vista was at a City meeting asking for development monies to be spent a particular way. TUSD also asks for taxes to pay for influx of people from Mountain House development at Kimball. The list goes on. In short, it is silly to accuse the city of wrong doing and not the schools. In fact it is hypocritical to accuse the city for appointing a member and say that is ok for schools to appoint someone. Just my two cents.
lovemychevy
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January 14, 2013
pinkwillow wrote

Well Ornley, the school board has no say whatsoever about bringing business to tracy, water, sewer, garbage bills, housing density, roadways, the police, fire dept operations. The entire operation of the city.

Read more: Tracy Press - News, events, classifieds and businesses in Tracy, Calif.

Well, if you do your homework pinkwillow you will find that police spend all day at schools. And schools are more involved in road safety than you think because they bus children deploy crossing guards etc etc etc.

I could go on. I just wanted to say it is very silly to argue the unimportance of TUSD or other schools. I just don't like when people minimize education like that.
NoniA
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January 11, 2013
I am trying to understand why the Council think they are more important than the voice of the people AGAIN!!! I voted for Charles Mann and would like to see him get the seat, however, the majority of the people of Tracy voted for Ray Morelos.
Indigogo
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January 11, 2013
I don't know why U think U know better than the voters NoniA. I only voted for two seats. The voters NEVER had an opportunity to vote for a third seat on any ballot. I think it's unfair for U to put words in the voters mouths.

Half of the voters do NOT eat burritos at the TracyDem's Castle on sixth street. Don't misrepresent others.
NoniA
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January 11, 2013
Sorry Indigogo..I must have read the total of votes and how they were distributed. I was under the impression that when the votes were counted Ray Morelos received more votes than the 4th place person. I am also sure there were more than 4 people voted.

What do Burrito's and Dem's have to do with anything? this remark says a lot about you...I will not answer if you reply to this.

mdsmith17
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January 14, 2013
NoniA hope this helps you understand. The people were asked to vote for 2 of 5 choices. They did and the two top vote getters won. The people were not asked to vote for 3. Had everybody been given the chance to vote for 3 you have no idea how the election would have turned out. We don't know how many people voted for both of the winners. All the people that voted for both of the winners didn't get a chance for that 3rd vote. It's very possible, that had they been given a 3rd vote they would have voted for the person that came in last place. The problem is none of us know. All we can tell from this election is that two people won and three people lost. You can't appoint one of the losers and call it the voice of the people. Here's another example for you; what if there were only three people running for two seats. The top two vote getters get 99.9% of the vote and the guy who loses gets .1% of the vote. Then for some reason one of the two winners can't take the office. Do you then appoint the guy with .1% of the vote because he came in third place? Would that be the will of the people?


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