Bank employee assaulted during robbery
by Denise Ellen Rizzo
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Wells Fargo robbed
Tracy police with automatic rifles prepare to enter the Wells Fargo Bank in the Red Maple Shopping Center after it was robbed on Tuesday, Oct. 10.  Glenn Moore/Tracy Press
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A Wells Fargo Bank employee was assaulted and robbed on Tuesday, Oct. 2 by two men at a bank branch on South Tracy Boulevard, according to police.

Two black men in their mid 20s entered the bank around 5 p.m., according to Lt. Greg Farmanian of the Tracy Police Department.

The men then punched a male bank employee in the face and took a yellow duffel bag from him before running out of the bank, Farmanian said.

The pair was last seen with the duffel bag running west away from the bank, which is near the Raley’s grocery store.

The victim was treated at the scene for a bloody nose, Farmanian said.

Initial police reports were that the bag contained only documents and no cash.

“We’re not sure if they took any money,” Farmanian said. “No idea of their mindset or motive.”

He said the men never mentioned a weapon or showed one during the robbery.

No other injuries were reported by police and a detective said there were approximately a dozen people inside the business at the time of the incident.

The robbers are described as being 5-feet-8 and 5-feet-10, with athletic builds. Police said they were wearing dark clothing.

A woman, who asked to remain anonymous, said she saw the two men running out of the bank while she sat in the parking lot in her girlfriend’s car.

“I was sitting right in front of the bank … I saw two young African American men run out,” she said. “The way they were acting I thought, ‘Did they just rob the bank?’” she said. “One almost tripped and dropped the yellow duffle bag. I went to get out of the car and a policeman yelled don’t go into the bank.”

Laile Atkins said she was inside ChilaBerries Frozen Yogurt store, located next to the bank, when a hysterical woman came running into the yogurt shop.

“She was crying and said call 911, the bank was just robbed,” Atkins said. “She said her husband and son were still in the bank.”

The woman told Atkins that she forgot some paperwork in her car and when she returned to go back inside of the bank, she saw everyone inside lying on the bank floor.

“We told the employee (at ChillBerries) to lock the door,” Atkins said.

Crystal Vogt said that she was with Atkins inside of the yogurt shop, and described the situation as exciting. She said she didn’t get nervous until she saw all the officers arrive with their guns drawn.

The bank, which closes daily at 6 p.m., remained closed for the rest of the day while investigators worked the scene.

• Contact Denise Ellen Rizzo at 830-4225 or drizzo@tracypress.com.

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northerncaliforniagirl
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October 03, 2012
TPD could not have responded more quickly than they did. They did a great job!
crap1210
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October 03, 2012
Now all of you know why most, if not all of the department heads, as well as City of Tracy workers live out of town. We should start a pole and take a guess at what bank will be in the TP next week.
ChrisRoberts
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October 03, 2012
I'm already carrying my own protection.

I don't give a hoot about concealed this or concealed that.

It's all about protecting my family

The good old boy, rednecks, on the city council only want money from developers to finance their luxury life styles. They don't care about the citizens of Tracy.

Some of these council members don't even live in Tracy!!!!!!They don't care what happens in this town!
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 03, 2012
CR

So ya carry yer own protection an don't give a hoot about concealed or not.

An yer one of th people I'd have ta say that should not be allowed ta carry a gun an frum what yer sayin yer not a law abidin citizen.

Good show in tellin th law enforcement authorizes that yer probably carryin illegally an given em an excuse ta take ya off th streets. Unless of course ya are writin yer stuff under an alias. Even then yer not unknown an if they wanna find ya it ain't all that difficult fer em ta do so.

Nope, doin thangs illegal ain't th answer ta th problem.

So, since ya brought it up, whare da th council members live? Ya made th allegation can ya provide th facts?
RedHotChilliPeppers
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October 03, 2012
ChrisRoberts,

You've alleged that some council members do not live in Tracy. Could you enumerate which one's, you feel, do not live in Tracy and then we can just vote for those who do live in Tracy?

dcose
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October 04, 2012
Chris,

Don't the fact that Council members are required to reside within the City limits stand in your way.

One has to ask if your are mentally qualified to own a weapon let alone carry it.

Henceforth, may all your days be lucid ones.
rayderfan
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October 06, 2012
Remember CR, the Mayor and Council have to live in the city limits. Now Department Heads and city management is another story.
SpikeVFR
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October 03, 2012
ornley - I would comment, but I can't make out what you are trying to say
ChrisRoberts
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October 03, 2012
Ornley only speaks redneck.

Anywho, all of this crime can be traced back to local developers.

They want build more homes with this ellis community which is going to attract more thuglets from Oakland, Hayward, etc.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 03, 2012
Spike

Sorry. I intentionally make it a little difficult to read to slow people down to allow them to comprehend what is really being said. You are not the first to complain about this style but if you try you will see the G in words containing ING dropped, the D in and comes out as AN and some vowels are changed fer (for) the same reason.

Bee sides, people who study how information is assimilated by the brain konw taht wrods taht aer iententonilly jmubled up aer still undresooted as th brian naturally makes sense out of them.

It's done for a psychological effect to slow you down to allow you time to think about what's really being said.

It also happens to be the manner of speech where I grew up as a kid where everyone spoke that way. None of those people would find anything there unusual because they all thank that way? :)

Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 03, 2012
Mornin Chris, still hackin away at those ya don't agree with instead of contributin somethang valuable ta th topic at hand.

Well do yer best it don't really matter ta me an really shows others yer credibility as a cansarned citizen who cares about th community he lives in.

Note Chris, Tracy is 85,000 strong an is no longer th little town that it use ta be 40 years ago. Things an times change. Get use ta it because it's still changin an will change until th end of time.

It's called progress. Admittedly all progress ain't good but in th general long term side of it is fer no other reason is ya ain't changin an movin forward yer simply dead an th world moves on without ya.

It's not th developers fault, not th city's fault an no individual citizens fault. It's what is and what has been allowed ta develop over time an is experienced all over th world as people desperately come up with ideas ta grab a quick wad of cash without workin fer it.

No growth or zero growth is th quickest way ta killin a community an a civilization. Why? Because if ya don't grow an change other communities an societies quickly grow around ya an strangle ya an yer ideals ta oblivion. It's a historical fact an one that will be repeated until th lesson is larned.
code20
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October 04, 2012
Omley-:

I must agree, your writing is difficult to read, especially if one is dyslexic as I am. At first I thought you had some type of disability, or were making fun of people with disabilities. Now that you have explained yourself, I cannot but wonder why someone who seems to be rather intelligent and thought provoking cannot find another, more intellectual way of expressing themselves. You do have some interesting and valid points, but if we cannot understand what you are saying, your points are moot.

camstruth
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October 03, 2012
oR SCAN YOUR FINDGER BEFORE YOU ENTER THE BANK
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 03, 2012
camstruth

First, ya can tarn off yer CAPS we can read.

Second, yer idea has merit but isn't truly failsafe either. As I recall th old Washington Mutual out by th mall had somethang similar an th guy followed th customer inta th atrium, cus th bank was closed an only th ATMs were available but th customer was robbed anyway.

Look, thair ain't a perfect solution ta this but thair are thangs we can proactively do ta help alleviate th problem.

Still, yer idea does show merit an that yer at least thankin about th problem rather than blamin it all on th police.

People first need ta protect thair own property. That ain't really th responsibility of th police because they are the secondary answer an usually thair after th fact. That bein said th banks own thair property so naturally is falls on them ta provide th first level protection fer thair property an depend on th police as th secondary answer after th fact.

Th object here is ta prevent th crime from occurin in th first place, not moppin up after its been committed. The problem is how ta do that in th most expedient an efficient manner without tarnin our country inta a police state whair th government has total control an th citizens have no freedoms.

SpikeVFR
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October 03, 2012
and what data bank would that verify you against? and those scanners are not 100% reliable, expecially after a few dirty hands go thru. You'd have people screaming about privacy. then you have people whose prints for one reason or another, do not scan
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 03, 2012
SpikeVFR

Spike, I was thankin it but didn't articulate it. But I do agree scannin would be a problem fer many people an it's still not foolproof. Thanks fer bringin yer thoughts ta th table. At least yer considerin alternatives an that's good. That way we can hopefully come up with somethang that works better than what's happenin now.
camstruth
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October 03, 2012
OK STOP EVERYONE!!!!! THE ONLY WAY TO PREVENT BANK ROBBERY'S IS IF PEOPLE HAVE TO USE THERE CARDS TO OPEN THE DOORS IN THE DAY TIME.....iF PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE TO USE THEIR CARDS TO GET IN THE BANK THERE WOULD BE LESS ROBBERYS BC YOU HAVE TO PROVE IDENTITY BEFORE YOU EVEN ENTER..........
jonpaul
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October 03, 2012
Camstruth:

Nice comment...but that would do nothing....what would stop the jerk from stickin his gun in my back and saying "Open the door with your card for me so I can rob you and this bank"....NOTHING!
SpikeVFR
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October 03, 2012
unless of course you forget your card

or you are not a customer of that particular bank

or someone holds the door open for a robber walking in behind them

Also tough for someone with bad arthritis, who has difficulty with removing their cards from wallet or even swiping it

or it is a branch inside a grocery store

or...
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 03, 2012
Lots of comments here, some good, some not so good.

Hopefully all of ya have noticed that this kind of crime is on th upswing across th nation an not just isolated ta th City of Tracy.

Actually, considerin thair slightly understaffed, our police do a pretty good job. Bringin thair staff up ta th national average of cops on th beat ta number of citizens protected would do some good but regardless, unless ya place a cop on every corner with th firepower an inclination ta act, yer not really gonna change it.

Yer police is great fer takin reports an findin th culprits after th crime is committed. Th history of Tracy PD in this area proves it. So since they can't be everywhair at once babysittin th public, it falls on th public ta protect themselves frum somethang like this.

Unfortunately after everythang is done passively ta prevent these thangs, like an armed guard inside th bank fer instance an more electronic surveillance, it means that citizens are gonna have ta take th first contact stance of protectin themselves. Can't really do that when yer at th mercy of someone who is armed an has ya outgunned. An ya know these two knew that now didn't ya.?

Cont:
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 03, 2012
In my opinion legal an trained people with no evidence of a violent criminal background an no evidence of mental instability should be allowed ta carry concealed weapons if fer no other reason than th criminals like this wouldn't know who's carryin an who ain't. That level of uncertainty alone would, in my opinion, cause them ta rethank what it is thair about ta do an hopefully prevent em frum doin it.

It's pretty much a historical fact, gun totin, law abidin citizens are a deterrent ta crime an don't often commit crimes of violence themselves.

Note: Guns don't kill people, people kill people usin guns an law abidin citizens don't kill people who don't need ta be killed fer th protection of th rest of society.
ciscokid52
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October 03, 2012
Um, you know to get a concealed weapon permit is ridiculously difficult, don't you? You pretty much have to be an off duty cop to obtain one or else everyone would have one.

This isn't Tombstone.
Wobbley
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October 03, 2012
I think there would be no shortage of volunteers to be deputized and act as city watch. They wouldn't necessarily have to be armed with anything other than camera's.

If someone did confront these guys with guns, they would simply run away anyways.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 03, 2012
ciscokid52

An why is it difficult? Ya first need ta understand th problem before ya can fix it.

Note: I did not say EVERY citizen I specifically said "legal an trained people with no evidence of a violent criminal background an no evidence of mental instability," which conforms ta Federal Law AND the Constitution of the United States of America.

I recognize that not everyone should be allowed to own and carry a firearm. And yes, this isn't Tombstone, its much better.

Wobbley

Did ya ever thank that if these guys knew that they might be confronted with guns they can't see that they might be inclined not ta commit th crime in th first place?

Don't know about you but if I thought I might get killed in such an incident I'd have second thoughts about doin it.

Law abiding citizens are not a threat they are a deterrent an yes, use more cameras an technology that's good but it is expensive.



SpikeVFR
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October 03, 2012


"In my opinion legal an trained people with no evidence of a violent criminal background"

and how many mass shootings have we had by someone with no prior history of "violent criminal background"? Guy that just blew away that cop had only a prior DUI many years ago, other than that, he didn't even have any speeding tickets apparently.

"an no evidence of mental instability" - so you want them to be able to go thru your medical records? Say a few years ago, you lost your job and got a divorce, you were a bit depressed, now you are fine, new job, new girl.

Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 03, 2012
SpikeVFR

Let me ask, do ya live in a perfect world? I know I don't. An I know that every idea has some flaws. Th trick is ta come up with somethang that's better than what ya have now.

Do normal people go off th deep end an kill usin guns? Most cartenly. Th trick is ta determine what th percentages are as compared ta th honest law abiding normal folk do that virtually goes on unreported.

Not everyone that owns a gun is a criminal with criminal intent. If we thought that everyone was criminally minded thair would be a lot of thangs we wouldn't be permitted ta do, like drivin a car fer example.

Technology might be an possible solution if properly used but thairs th rub, how ta properly use it an how ta keep th costs of usin it down. Then ya gotta determine if it really works.

Take safes fer example. Years ago they were strong boxes with keys, but criminals found a way around that. Then bank tellers were given a little switch below th counter so they could alert police when bein robbed. So robbers simply worked faster an still got away. Safes went frum th standard of a spinnin combination lock ta somethang that could only be unlocked at specific times. Still th criminals found a way around that.

So, what's th answer? What works th best? What is affordable an practical that th majority of our citizens live with without infringin on thair right of life, liberty an th PURSUIT of happiness?

I don't have those answers but I am willin ta entertain suggestions that might work. So, what's yer suggestion other than just leavin thangs th way they are so we can explore th positives an negatives of those suggestions. Who knows, we might just accidentally stumble on somethang that works. Wouldn't that be grand?
ciscokid52
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October 03, 2012
I know we all have our disagreements on here about what to do with the city's future plans, etc, but this is a serious problem. Usually, the heavy crimes are on the "OTHER" side of the city and around the "Holly" streets and stuff. But, this is a serious problem that I think has us all worried. I was going to get another gun - one that I'm confident that my wife can handle but every day I feel like my conscious is telling me to go back to the Dublin/Pleasanton area where things like this happen but nowhere NEAR how it is here in Tracy. I have a 4-year old daughter and I worry every day she's not next to me and at school; worried someone will try and snatch her at school or shoot up her school or for my wife's safety if she's picking up groceries!

I agree with everyone whose stated that Tracy PD is outgunned. In 3.5 years of me living in my neighborhood, I have yet to hear anything or see anything bad happen and cops patrol my streets all the time. I'm still beside myself that two guys on their feet can get away. Seems like they took tips from the guys that hit the credit union with automatic weapons some time ago (I think they were from Stockton or something like that).
camstruth
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October 03, 2012
The funny thing is........ The cops are in white and black cars......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA .....OMG IF THEY WERE IN NORMAL LOOKING CARS TO BLEND IN THERE WOULD BE LESSS CRIME BECAUSE THE MURDERERS WILL NOT KNOW WHERE THE COPS ARE....... THERE FOR THERE WOULD BE WAY MORE BUST......WE AS PEOPLE NEED TO STOP THIS IN TRACY.....STAY ARMED ON DO NOT LET ANYBODY THINK THAT THEY CAN BREAK INTO YOUR HOUSE.....
camstruth
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October 03, 2012
yeah, the cops in tracy are to busy shutting down party's and lieing in court.. They have no time to oversea all of the drug Cartel in this ghetto town... there is so much going on.... if the cops really tried they would find alot of murderers and rapest that are running the streets every day and night.... everynight there are neighborhoods planning to have a shoot out....... but no the cops dont even show up until everyone is killed.. thats how it has always been....... when it comes down to it.. we have to protect our self whether its about the law or not....... an how many banks half to get robbed until we start having securitys outside or guns behind the counter.... like really...... The devil is week as he progresses to put sin into our world..........the cops are to busy waiting to take good people crops and harvest that is being sold legaly to cancer patients who legaly have their card instead of busting the meth labs that are killing people around the world.
crap1210
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October 03, 2012
The City of Tracy is next Stockton. The city council needs to stop spending money on all of B/S crap and hire more cops. What is our police chief doing? The C/M brought this guy over from another city because he thoguht he walked on water,well I don't see it that way. I wonder how many banks have been hit during 2012? Maybe the council should hire another over paid consultant to figure it out.
ChrisRoberts
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October 02, 2012
I live down the street from where this happened.

Tracy citizens, arm your selves, the Police are out gunned and can not help us!!
mtrew
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October 02, 2012
I am directly west from Raleys. I can see it from my house. So scary. About time we make criminals afraid of being caught. Right now they don't care.

Bring our troops home to take care of our borders and city streets until we get all the scum off the grid.
walkingtall
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October 02, 2012
This is sad to see. This is what happens when the bad guys see that certain cities have a weak police department like Tracy. Tracy is easy pickens because we have cite and release police. They are not tough on crime, and spend way to much time on the easy stuff. With the help of the California Highway Patrol, things should be a little easier for them to handle since they have extra help! You change the Chief as many times as you want, but there are internal problems in this police department and have been for a very long time. Criminals have to be afraid of the police department, and in Tracy the criminals know they have nothing to fear. I travel all over the Bay Area, and there are cities such as Pleasanton and Alameda where you know the cops don't play around, so you go somewhere where the odds are in your favor in getting away from the police. I wish I had more confidence in the Tracy PD, but I have seen enough in my many years here to realize it's business as usual. You can't Police a city that has 80,000 the way you did when you had 20,000.
SpikeVFR
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October 03, 2012
the town doesn't have much to do with it, bank robberies are far more common that most poeple realize, there are several every week in the bay area. And they happen in every town and city that has a bank. Even when I lived in Sausalito.

Also, the Police that follow up on bank robberies, are *not* the local PD, it is the FBI as a bank robbery is automatically a Federal crime. Just one of the many reasons that make bank robbery one of the stupedist crimes out there.
debbdaves
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October 02, 2012
Tommybahama aka Espinoza is suddenly deaf dumb and dead. Can't blame it on Theissan anymore.
backinblack
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October 02, 2012
What the hell is going on? It seems like every few hours over the last day or two something like this is happening.

Bank employee assaulted

Gunman robs 7-11

Armed robbery at MacArthur Dr market

Man found bleeding in the street

It seemed like things were quieting down for awhile but now it sure looks like things are getting out of control. This is not a critique of the current chief but according to some people in this town these problems were the fault of the prior chief which leads me to ask, who's fault is it now?
SerialNum090180
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October 08, 2012
This kind of stuff has been happening for a while, it is just being reported in the press more now. I am all for protecting ourselves, but it must be done legally. And unfortunately for us, it is hard to get a conceal and carry permit in San Joaquin county. Some countys give them away like candy.


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